The man of her dreams turned out to be an emotionally abusive con artist, and she doesn't want that to happen to you. But I do have some firsthand experience dating, and almost marrying, a sociopath. We met on Tinder. In our whirlwind romance, I was pregnant within a year, engaged, and house shopping, yet my life was far from a fairytale. It took me almost two years to stop buying into the lies, and to realize that pretty much my entire relationship was built on falsehoods. If you believe the statistics, 3.
Maybe they just they think the person is smitten. Crazy bitch" I want to know more about this from a woman's point of view. I like www. Because it is funny Why do you laugh at someone tripping? It didn't happen to me and as long as there isn't any recourse to my actions why would I care. I never want people to be cold to me. In truth I want endless affection thrown at me.
I want to be endlessly praised worshiped and loved without conditions. I just don't want to have to give it back. I want to be endlessly praised worshipped and loved without conditions.
May 10, Can Two Sociopaths Ever Fall in Love With Each other? by Ariel Mon Jan 23, pm I've read about how non sociopaths are hurt by sociopaths and how sociopaths hurt non sociopaths, but rarely do I read/hear about whether or not two sociopaths can co exist and "love" each other. It should be noted that the odds of two sociopaths ending up together are pretty slim. Sociopaths make up around of the population. So there's a far, far higher likelihood that a sociopath would end up dating a neurotypical. To ask the question, can two sociopaths have a relationship is the same as asking can two people have a relationship. No two sociopaths are exactly the same. There are degrees to everything. Not to mention, what OTHER issues you and this man may have besides sociopathy. So that said; I'm a sociopath and my spouse is a sociopath.
Me too! It's def crazy. It's bs, bec the guy doesn't want you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If he did, he would find a way to get you. Kesu no, i though that he wanted me to be cold.
Traits of the Female Sociopath
I thought he didn't want affection. I put on a sexy nighty and one day he liked it. I didn't know what it was, He said one other night he had intimacy problems, he said another night he had a problems with me having had a longterm relationship before him.
I tried not touching him to see if he'd go for me, I said he must b fing someone else if not me,and he said how could i think that.
I pretty sure he was cheating, but not sure if he just got bored with me. He started this shit in the beginning. I wanted independence,and "absence makes the heart grow fonder" stuff,and he wanted to gobble me up the"keep" me without fing me.
He didn't respect my boundaries. I wanted LESS time with him. He wanted more and then was a cold meannie. Husband: Is that my wife?
Two sociopaths dating
Wife: Ohhh, fancy meeting you here dear? Husband: Who is this fool? Wife: He goes by the name Notable. Husband: Just call me pussy boy! AND he was also paranoid as hell. At the end, he started thinking I was gaming him big time -bec i started to not care what he thought.
I'm telling you he was totally testing me. Why do some sociopaths murder people for fun if they don't feel strong emotions UKan? Do they feel rage strongly? Is it because they get so bored with life that they start randomly owning certain people?
Or will we just ruin each other in the end? Nice try optimism though. Psychopaths can feel just as much as you do, or more depending on how you look at it! The difference is triggers and interpretations. Of course if you're the psychopath your interpretation of emotion might justify your professing: "I feel no feelings, look at me I'm a sociopath". The problem is that fact has little to do with murdering people for fun.
A "normal" person could partake in the murdering of people for fun. The key difference for example could be the normal person throwing up afterwards, or crying, or killing themselves, or some stupid shit. This does lead to certain other emotions being suppressed or interpreted differently. For example, sociopaths process empathy when they behave sadistically; it is an indisputable fact that sociopaths still have active mirror neurons. Normal people feel sadism too, the difference is that to a sociopathic brain sharing someone's joy is not "better" or "more acceptable" than feeding off their pain.
Sociopaths can even feel love, by which I mean it is an indisputable neurological fact that they form oxytocin bonds. However, it inspires different behavior, and when in love a sociopath tends to be possessive and controlling, perhaps even seeking worship from a lover. Basically, any emotion except conventional guilt, though experienced differently is fair game.
However, it is likely that they feel them significantly less. In my experience, the behavior of a normal person when they are mentally incapacitated or even claim to have a physical reaction to an emotional state is foreign to a sociopath. Hmmm these comments have been interesting to say the least. My path crossed with a sociopath a few years ago and lets just say I saw right through his lies and manipulation. You sociopaths are so arrogant and think us normal people are putty in your hands He was able to cause a lot of heartache and trauma to people until he met me A psychopath may even have an uncanny ability to interpret emotional situations that is, understanding through ways other than empathizing.
But I wouldn't quite call this feeling them. If one doesn't have empathy I don't think one can substitute it for thinking without losing something, or rationalize that the only difference from a psychopath to a neurotypical is that while the neurotypical can suppress his consciousness every now and then, a psycho just suppress his longer that is, all the time. Imo if one hasn't experienced something, his idea about it will always be a construction, and probably an abstraction.
People killing each other was something much more common in the past, but ofc not in just any situation. It was more socially acceptable, more justifiable two. I for one in my mind don't think I'd ever be a killer, not today, not in 18th century, not in But what if I had born a spartan soldier or something.
Then my life would be warring. I think I would be someone else then, someone unimaginable to myself. God knows if it is possible for two sociopaths to have a relationship. Probably not. Because the thought of two extremely smug people getting it together is probably too much for the planet to take and it will implode or something. Smuggery is the defining factor of sociopathic types, I find, but, as an aside, remember this: just you're all heartless, does NOT mean to say that there are empaths or indeed other sociopaths who are not meaner, smarter and nastier than you'll ever be and that a tsunami does not distinguish between the sociopaths and normal people in its path.
I will be affronted if this is not put up here, simply because you sociopathic smugsters aren't supposed to take offence, are you? Anyway, to answer the question: You can't love, dear, you haven't got it in you.
Vanity, though, is the one quality that sociopaths have in abundance. Why don't you just admit that you are incapable of love and concentrate on being bad?
Y'know like screwing this guy and his girlfriend and getting a kick out of it. The stuff you excel at. Honestly, you're behaving like a soccer mom who insists on gatecrashing her teenage daughter's party, you're just making an idiot of yourself with all this 'love' talk! Being psychologically different from you does not make you automatically evil any more than being an empath which you aren't, people overuse this term that does not mean normal, pathological empathy is crippling and DOES make it very difficult to be "mean", though not necessarily to be evil makes you automatically good.
It's all about how you, as a rational individual, choose to apply your gifts. Giving someone something that makes them as happy as the giftwrapped head of their severed pet would make them miserable takes more creativity, but it is more socially acceptable, and just as satisfying in terms of power and control to manipulate another's emotions.
And preventing victimization doesn't require that I empathize with the victim or even care at all about them, only that I feel contempt for the victimizer as choosing a weak target makes you a pathetic underachiever and would enjoy ruining him or her. One thing I find that sociopaths have is zero sense of irony. To have this, you have to be a lowly empath. The evil-minded smugsters take themselves ever so seriously to poke fun at themselves.
I mean, I doubt the person who posted this question has little idea of how absurd they sound. Nevertheless, do you guys think I am capable of running through a few corn fields looking adoringly into the eyes of another whilst being overcome by passion and loving feelings?
Get back to the cauldron, honey. Time to brew up some trouble and the frogs getting cold But since you've home-diagnosed an ex boyfriend with sociopathy, they're all evil. Please pick a less pathetic psuedonym. If that is your real name, you should think about changing it. Of course a sociopath cannot love. What drivel that they can!
How can a person who claims to have no feelings, concern for others, completely calculating and cold love another human being? It is illogical! My 'soccer mom' analogy was a bit poor, but it is a bit like that: an annoyance caused by people trying to get something that they cannot understand.
Like a year-old dad trying to get down with the kids. All this posturing by self-proclaimed sociopaths gets on my nerves.
Grow up and accept that if you are totally emotionless beings then you cannot experience emotions such as love. Therefore I logically cannot love as love means caring for others'. There is a well-known psychopath who openly and honestly admits that the death of others mean nothing to him. Fair play to him- at least he is not full of shit.
Ever think maybe whatever "sociopath" gave you enough of a complex to troll their boards just couldn't love YOU? You seem pretty unlovable. Again, enjoy your spunk. People forget they are love. The living life force itself is pure creative impulse. Agreed, every time one gives of themselves is confirmation of such an exchange. I feel at this point the problem in this forum is "not feeling love" its understanding how pervasive its impact.
I feel many here are wrestling with this like a beast; an honorable pursuit. Life also has a destructive side and I do believe its a trap to focus only in that direction. Ego's short well Maturity is the magic card between a narrow perception and actually embracing the mystery of it all.
Life is hard. And luck plays a card. So sparkle, with great powers of observation come great responsibility. I continue to expect great things from you. I am at present a real life soccer mom. I love the sport.
Jealously or ignorance or maybe just boredom and a desire of elevate oneself above a stereotype. Perhaps there is a secret sadist within you waiting to spring forth. You do quite enjoy putting people in their place. And it's in your bloodline.
The world owes us everything as we owe our gifts to the world. Sparkle Bug. You wrote: I only like to see unrepentant assholes suffer I have always formulated my own code It has taught me to compartmentalize my emotions Why are people so stupid?
I don't feel guilty You have the same wiring, honey. You are just on the side of the Creative and the Life-affirming Maternal. God gave you an open heart with a warrioress mission. I am there with you. You go girl! I never called you sociopathic. I just said you have "the wiring. Also, Author, it sounds like it won't be a play for power. You already own him. You see him and he doesn't see you. You will most likely get bored once you win him and tire of his no longer being a challenge.
These are not calibrated for outside that range. My overall score wasbut because of the lack of calibration up there, someone scoring could be more intelligent and someone scoring could be less.
As a note: Online tests are false tests. I've topped out before, being given a orsimply because I got all the questions right. That isn't how IQ is measured. The Mormons are better than Scientologists as cults go. They usually have better food, too. This is especially true the first Sunday of every month.
Ukan said, "I find it interesting that most people on here are single" Those of us keeping up a marriage character on top of our professional, friendly, family, and community ones tend to be a bit busy to go poking around the back ally's of the internet on a regular basis. Soulfulpath I emailed this to M. I'd really like to email further with you. My email is redheaded. This is a response to the author.
To ask the question, can two sociopaths have a relationship is the same as asking can two people have a relationship.
Dating a Sociopath
No two sociopaths are exactly the same. There are degrees to everything. So that said; I'm a sociopath and my spouse is a sociopath.
We have been officially together now for four years. And were best friends five years prior. We are extremely possessive of each other. Our 'spark' hasn't gone out. We play 'games' on each other and with each other. Everyday it's a challenge, who will come out dominate. And I say this in a good way, it's a fun game we play. We actually work very good together. We are something of a team when dealing with others. Since we can't empathize with each others anger or sadness.
We can interject logic before ether of us does something stupid. We act as mirrors for each other. Both of us projecting what the other wants.
We love each other in a very possessive manner. Perhaps it is not a conventional love, but it works for us. We don't fight. We are both extremely logical. If we disagree on something, we discus it until a logical understanding is reached. Are discussions may be passionate, but never an ounce of malice.
We don't play the overly aggressive games with each other. That is off limits. We both know we work better as a team than against each other. We save those games for those outside out relationship.
So finally, yes. It can work. But that depends on the two of you. The odds of success drop substantially if nether of you see a benefit of being together. The odds are also not good if ether of you are an addict.
That is said from experience. I had a short lived relationship with an addict sociopath. In the end we worked against each other, to destroy. To Anonymous said on June 14, about how you saw through the person who was a sociopath.
I know a woman who I think is a sociopath or something like that who is extremely abusive to her son and I really can't stand her. You can tell she could care less and just uses him I don't know what she uses him for but she must get something out of the relationship somehow because it must make her look good to other people somehow or some bs.
I know the way she is She doesn't look good trust me He'll be going to school soon Child protective services sucks The police are weird as can be The landlord and his wife are dumber than a box of rocks and a relative It runs in the family Sociopaths are not smart people They're manipulative Being manipulative does not make you a very smart person But people think it does People who get taken advantage of and the people that have front lobal neurological brain damage and abnormal brain activity and function It's not smart It's weird and stupid and evil The devil demons evil spirits exist and so does sin and you better f'n believe so does hell When that's where you go after you die.
They think they're "fooling" people. The devil demons and evil spirits and other sociopaths and atheists and misguided religious people are the ones pulling the wool over their eyes. Good luck. When you die you'll know. You'll be feeling all kinds of things and having all kinds of emotions and it won't be "bordeom" either.
And it will be physical and spiritual. You're really stupid. Such dementia to think that you're better than other people. You're already in the beginning of hell. Because I'm one of the only people I know who isn't depressed.
Stop pushing your cult as if it was psychology and go bust demon- induced chemtrails with David Icke. What a pathetic way to attempt to preserve your useless trolling!
They would only be weak for removing your comment if it actually contributed knowledge to the conversation. Which it doesn't. If I were her I'd pull your garbage just to show you who's house you're posting in, brat. If you're a psychopath, I'm a gumball machine. I think you're confusing psychopathy with another mental issue down syndrome.
Being a borderline, I can say the only men who peak my interest are either borderlines or sociopaths. I eat everyone else for breakfast. I'm working on this though I am trying to learn how to feel and empathize. It's my life's goal to be normal. I read everything I can and use every situation as a "workout" situation. I'm recognizing how I hurt others and trying to stop that.
I am on a mission to break through this catatonic wall and actually FEEL something for someone, or anything. I believe it can be done! My relatives every time say that I am killing my time here at web, but I know I am getting know-how everyday by reading such good articles or reviews.
Here is my page: orquesta atraccion. I absolutely think so. After a plethora of failed relationships, and a long string of broken hearts that I left dangling in the balance All the while, of course, making myself out to be the victim I found the man who made me realize I was probably a sociopath in the first place. He became my mirror, so to speak. We both have sociopathic tendencies to different degrees and in different dynamics, but we work very well together Despite the fact that we may be a volatile mixture of loose-cannon personalities, that like to run over everything in our path and then laugh about it He really is the first person I think I've genuinely loved, and the one I don't feel the need to manipulate he'd see through it, anyway; takes one to know one.
The beginning of our relationship was a giant mess of each of us failing miserably at manipulating the other, and I think that's what drew us in. Once we realized that whatever wired our brains was virtually the same, I think an almost perfection set into our relationship. I married him immediately, despite the fact that I'd previously sworn I'd never marry.
So yes, I believe that two sociopaths are more than capable of forming a relationship that isn't based on one person manipulating the other. I actually think that a sociopath's most successful relationships can be with other sociopaths. Can 2 Sociopath's be in a relationship? I know them. When they argue the police get called and one of them always gets arrested.
Everyone is afraid of them. Sadly they have a five year old. He has been taken away and put in foster care. Dcf says stay away from eachother and u will get the boy back and share custody. They are addicted to eachother. The child is afraid of the police.
They fool dcf and say they don't live together but they do.
May 31, A sociopath's relationships typically involve three phases: assessment; he sizes up the prey to decide if it's worth pursuing and, if so, how best to do it. manipulation; this is the actual relationship and is not the "love" or "romantic" abandonment; sociopaths easily grow bored, and they. Sociopaths are the life of the party, so plenty of people will know them and want to be around them. But sociopaths tend not to have a lot of real friends because of how self-involved they are and how often they hurt people. If a person has a lot of burnt bridges and no real, close friends, they just may be a thefoodlumscatering.com: Kristin Salaky.
I won't tell dcf because as bad as they are. Hes adapted. I know this may sound weird but I was thete when he came home from foster care and he was traumatized. I won't ever tell for that reason. He is not neglected or abused physically in any way. But he is used as a pawn in thete vicious games and plots against eachother. He is so young he doesn't know. He goes to pre school and has a few social problems but he is Amazing and resilient.
He will probably as he gets older pick up on the sociopath tendencies. I don't know but I do know it's inherited.
I pray night and day for this boyand I make sure he's checked on periodicly. He Always takes her back because she cheats so much. Why she wants him in jail.
He's an excellent provider to her and the boy. He has another son with a different mom. He told me I worry about this one cuz his mother sucks. I never worry about him. Has No reguard for the boy. At thst point. I will tell. Because of this, dating a sociopath is usually not a long-term endeavor.
Once she feels she has benefited as much as possible from her partner, she'll abruptly leave him in search of her next victim. Sociopaths are cold and calculating. To a sociopath, relationships are nothing other than a means to an end, some sort of personal gain be it for money, power, sex, amusement, or any combination thereof.
Sociopaths in relationships are entirely self-serving What is a Sociopathic Person Like? A sociopath is in total control of the relationship before he even enters it. A sociopath's relationships typically involve three phases:. Sociopaths in relationships see nothing wrong with what they do to the people with whom they're involved.
In relationships, sociopaths are the epitome of Machiavellian creatures. If they were astrological signs, they would be Geminis, with two distinct 'selfs' at work. They are duplicity incarnate. Dec 12, Brittani Louise Taylor almost married a man who turned out to be a sociopath. Find out the signs of a sociopath, such as chronic lying and emotional abuse. Rationale: Dating another sociopath would be much more invigorating, as it would be a constant challenge for one another's attention. As stated in Robert Greene's "The Art of Seduction", the most successful couples are those in which both people .
Why would they? Sociopaths feel nothing other than a desire to hurt others and gain something for themselves. They've played the game before, and they'll play it again. The person who is or was in a relationship with a sociopath, on the other hand, eventually sees many things wrong with the relationship.
Here are some signs you're dating a sociopath :. Don't bother sticking around to see if the sociopath can change. An opportunistic sociopath doesn't even want to change. Their methods work very well. Medically reviewed by Harry Croft, MD. All Rights Reserved.
Part lab-rat, part field development. I tend to stand out though. You wouldn't look at me and think that was my occupation. I'm more, artistic, in appearance. Anon I don't know. Perfectionistic tendencies are usually driven by a desire for approval. Which I am completely ambivalent about. You wouldn't be able to fulfill that. After all those experiments you might start to resemble one of Picasso's pieces.
That's pretty artistic though. I think it's easier to maintain control if you're being the pursued, which is important, but I guess that's settling, especially if you're getting bored.
Haven, what do you do, if you don't mind my asking. I saw your blog but have only read a handful of posts so far. I don't think I'm borderline, but it's interesting. Anon haha no that's not a dare.
I have daddy issues. It's not surprising. Unless you're my father, your approval just won't do. I can't tell you the specific projects that I'm working on though. Classified and all that. My blog isn't for everyone, but I've had plenty of people that aren't Borderline tell me they've taken away useful information from it. My psychiatrist tried to medicate my ambivalence once. It's very characteristic of BPD. I at once want approval and rebel against it. I can see it being helpful, but I'm still working on the difference between sociopaths, malignant narcissists and psychopaths, which is a little closer to home for me.
How many hours a week do you spend on it? And do you have any suggestions for people who want to write a blog and stay anonymous?
I dated a malignant narc once. So done with their kind. I honestly prefer the socios here. Psychopaths are a curiosity for me. I spend a lot of time on my blog. Probably hours a week. Much of that is the research I put into it. Some weeks are probably less if I'm extremely busy in my RL. There have definitely been weeks I've put in more though. So is average. To stay anonymous just keep all of your contact and source information separate from your actual life and real life accounts.
New e-mail, new social media, new blog Don't allow cross over. It shouldn't be too hard if you keep anonymity in mind from the start. Anon - "I hate you, don't leave me" is ambivalence. Simultaneous yet contradictory feelings. That happens more often than I like, but I'm getting better with all of that. Anon pleasant dreams. Nice chatting. And enjoy your sexy time. Anon you'd be surprised.
A huge chunk of Borderlines don't "look" like what people think of what they envision the Borderline Personality. I'm in no position to diagnose though. It's an all or nothing feeling. One or the other, not both at once.
Haven do you also do the valuing and devaluing thing? This i will do and it feels like the splitting. Then i have to go to ambiguity, then I am fucking ready to not give a fuck, and need a nap until I will be valuing.
It really is boring and too scary to be in value mode, and nobody nobody should be in that slot for me. It just makes no sense. I don't trust any of it. It reminds me when you say you have your mood "in love". When I am "in love" is the period of newness.
I always need to find way to kick that up.
Noone can keep me in that place along time. If they doI want to assume they are a sociopath lol. Is that normal borderline stuff? THe narcissists will do the same kind of splitting with valuing and devaluing? WHat is a difference, if any? Yeah, I don't really understand mal narc. I guess they need more attention and less control?
And Sam Vaknin honestly sounds like a sociopath to me. Wow, that's a part time job, then. Thanks for the tips. Do you worry about rerouting your IP address? Not really. Anon - What? Are you working with a sex surrogate? Come back and tell us about it! Hi Zoe. Zoe there is a comment on the yt pg there at the bottom abt the time when this music was made. Had you seen it? I thouht you felt that and that was why you chse it,or something. Admitting the lack of energy I have toward reading all the above one-hundred-fifty-some posts wowza!
I thank my fellow sociopathic lovers; thank you all! Thank you for giving me the challenge, the lack of pretense although we both always know I have tryd this and it falls apart when one person ether loses interst and gets bored or one just doesn't feel they benefit from it. You might even see real tears. He'll get so paranoid he'll self destruct. I still don't see the incentive for an actual sociopath to be in a relationship with another sociopath. Why would a sociopath bring in a worthy competitor in something as controllable as who they are dating?
That's the easiest and one of the most satisfying parts of life to conquer, and I just don't see a sociopath relinquishing the upper hand in that ct of their life. Personally I'm not a sociopath, I just have some traits like lack of guilt, empathy, and sympathy but I don't have the drive to be constantly charming and manipulation, I'm only like that when I have targets in mind.
This girl I'm currently sleeping with took a ton of interest in me even when I'm in my detached callous autopilot mode, this is less effort I've had to put in to impress almost every girl I've been with, I never have to put on a mask for her. I have a hunch she is a sociopath I really can't confirm yet though, she's either the nicest girl in the world or a completely glib sociopath.
She has a beautiful smile that has no warmth to it at all. The first time I saw her, she had that icy smile and eyes straight on me literally the entire few minutes I was talking to someone next to her even though I wasn't really paying any attention to her.
The smile wouldn't move. She hasn't dropped the persona yet, even when there's no reason to keep it up, it continues in sex where she is so submissive. She's probably not a sociopath and this is completely irrelevant to anything. I still wouldn't be surprised if I woke up with my head cut off. I recently found this blog and I cannot stop reading. It feels good to feel understood! And this post, is everything.
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